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Ton van Andel(left) and Martin Leeuwis (right)

Martin Leeuwis and Ton van Andel first met each other in 1982.

Ton van Andel started using the drawing pencil at a very young age, inspired by his father, a skilled draughtsman. From the beginning he liked sketching "funny faces", and soon he began to specialize in cartoons. Another hobby, aviation, made him join the Royal Netherlands Air Force in 1949. After serving in several operational units he became an electronics officer at the Air Staff in the Hague before retirement. Many of his cartoons have been published, but he likes aviation-related cartoons best. After his retirement he has been traveling in his home-built camper, teaching computer knowledge and of course drawing cartoons. Ton lives with his wife Annie in Alphen aan de Rijn.

Martin Leeuwis, who was born after Ton joined the Air Force, dreamed about becoming a pilot, like all boys do. He started his flying training in Canada in 1973 and was the youngest pilot for a while in The Royal Netherlands Air Force. His operational unit was 314 Squadron at Eindhoven and he flew well over 2000 hours in the Northrop NF-5. In 1984 he changed into a civilian uniform and started flying the DC-9 with KLM, the Royal Dutch Airline. After a few years he transferred to Boeing 737-300/400/800/900 and has been captaining these aircraft since.  The "Say ..." business takes up some of his spare time but since 1982 there have been 4 changes of address and each change resulted in some major rebuilding work, a lot done personally, on the next house to fill the rest of the time available. Martin now lives with wife Cornelie and children Annebet and Maarten in an old farmhouse in Vlijmen, a small village near 's-Hertogenbosch in the southern part of the Netherlands.